Episode 77

Steve Smith

Journey Drummer, Jazz Legend, Vital Information, Top 25 Drummers of All Time

About This Episode

Rock God, Jazz Scholar,
Complete Musician

Steve Smith occupies a unique position in music history — a drummer who has conquered both rock and jazz at the highest level, and who brings genuine mastery to both worlds. As the drummer for Journey during their peak years, he played on some of the most iconic rock records ever made, including 'Don't Stop Believin',' 'Separate Ways,' and 'Open Arms.' As the leader of Vital Information, he has been one of the most articulate voices in contemporary jazz for four decades.

In this conversation with Elmo, Steve traces the arc of a career that defies easy categorization. He talks about what it was like to join Journey, how he approached creating drum parts for some of the most recognizable songs in rock history, and the jazz education and influences that have always run beneath everything he plays.

They also dig into Steve's approach to practicing and developing as a musician, what the Vital Information project means to him creatively, and his philosophy on what it means to be a complete drummer — someone who can play anything with authority, feel, and authenticity.

"Drumming is a conversation. And to be a great conversationalist, you have to have something real to say."


What We Cover

Inside the Episode

Growing Up & The Jazz Foundation

Steve's early years and how jazz became the bedrock of his musical education — the teachers, the records, the players who shaped his concept of the drums before he ever played a rock gig.

Joining Journey

How Steve came to join one of the biggest rock bands in the world at the height of their commercial peak, what the audition was like, and the challenge of bringing his jazz sensibility into a rock context without losing either one.

Creating the Drum Parts for Journey's Hits

The story behind the drum parts for 'Don't Stop Believin',' 'Separate Ways,' and other Journey classics — how Steve approached each song, what choices he made, and what guided his instincts in the studio.

Vital Information & The Jazz Life

What the Vital Information project means to Steve as a musician — the creative freedom it represents, the jazz tradition it embodies, and how leading his own band has kept him growing as an artist.

Practice & Development

Steve's specific approach to practicing, the exercises he has developed over decades, and the mental framework that has allowed him to maintain a high level of musicianship across five decades of professional playing.

Being a Complete Drummer

Steve's philosophy on what it means to be a truly complete drummer — the genres, the techniques, the listening, and the musicianship that go beyond any one style into something universal.


Key Highlights

Moments You Won't Want to Miss

Steve walks through the creation of the drum part for 'Don't Stop Believin'' — the groove, the choices, and the specific moment in the studio when he knew it was right.

The Journey audition story: what it was like to walk into that band, what Steve played, and how he got the gig that would make him one of the most recognized rock drummers on the planet.

A masterclass in musical breadth — Steve explains how his jazz background informed his rock playing, and how his rock experience deepened his jazz, and why he has always believed that every musical context makes you a better musician.

Steve's vision for the Vital Information project — what he is trying to say with that music, who his influences are, and why leading a jazz ensemble has always been the most personally meaningful work of his career.

A conversation about longevity — how Steve has stayed at a high level for five decades, the discipline and humility required to keep growing when you've already achieved so much, and what still excites him about sitting behind a drum kit.

Steve's parting advice for young drummers: the things he wishes someone had told him early, the mistakes he sees the current generation making, and the one quality he believes separates great drummers from merely good ones.

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